dan hurd: i'm ashamed of that, and i don't want this to continue for my daughter. brenda kealing: prop 38 is going to bring a lot of money to our schools. suzan solomon: the money stays at the school site. cade derry: what i would really like to see is that the teachers... that were laid off come back to the school. navaz hurd: a smaller class size. navaz hurd: as a mom i want that. as a teacher i want that. prop 38 is an opportunity of a generation. >> the thing about congressman ryan is, he's straightforward, he has been straightforward up to now about all the significant changes he wants to make. >> he's fast on the cuff, he's a witty guy, he knows who he is and he has been doing it for 40 years, so you are not going to rattle joe biden. >> chris: vice president biden and congressman paul ryan, both trying to set expectations ahead of their debate, on thursday. and we're back now with the panel. well, i don't know how important it is, in terms of who is going to actually win, we'll deal with that in a few minutes but i have to say, i am really looking forward to